University of Oslo political scientist Janne Matláry discusses the EU, past and present, on With a Side of Knowledge

Author: Ted Fox

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With a Side of Knowledge is a podcast produced by the Office of the Provost at the University of Notre Dame. It brings listeners informal interviews with fascinating scholars and professionals from both Notre Dame and elsewhere that take place over brunch.

The 11th episode of the show’s third season, “On the EU, Allies, and the State of European Democracy,” was released Thursday, Jan. 16, and features Janne Matláry, professor of international politics in the Department of Political Science at the University of Oslo and the Norwegian Defence University College.

A specialist in European foreign and defense policy as well as international security, Matláry was Norway’s deputy foreign minister from 1997–2000, the first Catholic woman to hold a high government post in Norway since the Protestant Reformation. She has also served on the board of trustees of the Oslo Center for Peace and Human Rights and is a life member of the Pontifical Academy of Science.

Matláry was in residence at Notre Dame’s Institute for Advanced Study as a director’s fellow for several weeks this past fall. She and host Ted Fox began their conversation drawing on one of her most recent books—Hard Power in Hard Times: Can Europe Act Strategically?, published in 2018 by Palgrave Macmillan—with Matláry providing a general sense of the model on which the European Union has been built.

From there, they talked about the differences between modern and postmodern states, the external and internal challenges facing European democracies today, and the U.S.-EU relationship, particularly with respect to NATO.

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You can also listen to the episode with Matláry using the player below.